There are time limits as to when you can change an upvote or downvote on questions and answers. Once you cast a vote, I think you have 5 minutes to change it and then it's locked in until the respective question or answer is edited.

This makes sense. Except when you can be the one that edits it. And then change your vote. I know that once you're granted editing permissions, you're a "trusted user in the community" so it's unthinkable that someone would abuse this.. but it is possible. And I know abuse of this would be caught through viewing a user's history. I think it is but it seems like a . It allows for users above 2K reputation to manipulate past votes on answers and questions.

Basically,

  1. There is no time limit as to when a user above 2K rep can change his/her up/down vote. 2. This allows users to cast more than 40 votes in a day.
  2. Removing the time-limit restrictions would not stop both of the above scenarios.
  3. Additionally, not allowing users who edit posts to vote on them would be counter-intuitive and would go against the entire framework of this community.

What's my point, you ask? I sort of brought something up and then shot down the obvious solutions, leaving us to determine this is entirely through lack of alternatives. I guess I wanted to bring up a discussion to see if any of the better minds could think of why this is okay and doesn't need to be fixed, or what could be done to fix one or both of the "problems".


Edit

@slhck found this thread that talks about this as well. But it doesn't talk about going over the limit of 40 votes per day or the totally insane ninja skills of @danielbeck


Edit 2

Could not reproduce more than 40 votes in a single day at the suggestion of @Anna Lear ♦ , I must have been mistaken. Edited question to ignore this part. Dev reference here

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I'd say this is clearly a [bug], at least when coupled with hiding/undoing edits. –  Daniel Beck Mar 3 '12 at 23:03
    
I don't believe #2 is actually true. You still only have 40 votes to cast in one day regardless of whether you reversed any old ones. –  Anna Lear Mar 4 '12 at 2:46
    
@AnnaLear I was at my cap of 40, reversed 2 and cast 2 more. I didn't change how many votes I've cast overall but I definitely cast more than 40 in a single day –  Raystafarian Mar 4 '12 at 2:58
    
@Raystafarian Did you reverse two older votes or two votes you cast earlier that same day? –  Anna Lear Mar 4 '12 at 3:08
    
@AnnaLear older votes, not same day votes –  Raystafarian Mar 4 '12 at 12:48
    
@Raystafarian Got developer confirmation here that votes older than a day should not add to today's count if they're undone. If you can verify that that's not the case, please post a bug report. Thanks! –  Anna Lear Mar 7 '12 at 1:25
    
@AnnaLear Could no reproduce, edited the question to reflect so. Thanks for being part of this discussion! –  Raystafarian Mar 7 '12 at 12:29
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up vote 6 down vote accepted

How about we undo any vote on any post without anyone noticing we circumvented the locked vote restriction?

It takes less than a minute in all cases to undo any vote, making the vote locking restriction entirely useless. It doesn't feel like a feature apparently only intended to affect new or clueless users (like "problem" titles), so this feels like a and should be fixed.

Step by step instructions on how to undo any vote on any post at any time

  1. Find a post you voted on, where you cannot undo your vote.

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  2. Edit the post by adding a few newlines or anything similarly innocent at the end.

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  3. Undo your vote.

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  4. remove your edit by reverting all changes (not a rollback, just change the post's contents to what it was before your edit)

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Here's my totally innocent editing history on the site I performed the changes shown above. No edit is displayed, it's simply removed from the system, but still allowed me to undo my vote:

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Here's a simple rule amendment to fix it:

Your own edits should not unlock your vote and enable you to change your vote.

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I agree with your proposed rule amendment, of course –  Raystafarian Mar 4 '12 at 16:17
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This change will be deployed later today. –  Kevin Montrose Mar 6 '12 at 22:45
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Has this been implemented? I hope not.

I have sometimes used this trick to retract a downvote I cast in error. For example, I may have misread something in the OP and downvoted, and later --after having coffee--, realized that the downvote was not merited. I would then simply do a little edit, correct a minor error or something and then change my vote. I think this is useful and cannot really be abused.

In fact, I am not sure why the limit is there in the first place. Why can't I change my mind? I expect it does not happen very often but it has happened to me a few times, perhaps when looking at a post with new eyes, I reach a new conclusion about its merits. Why should that be disallowed?

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I agree. This time limit annoys me too and I don't understand its purpose –  nixda Oct 11 '13 at 12:33
    
Here's the rationale for forbidding people to take-back votes. –  dcaswell Oct 11 '13 at 17:58
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