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Sep 11, 2019 at 6:33 comment added trlkly I am a multi-SE user, and "frame challenge" is a very common term, and it's meaning is fairly transparent--you're challenging the underlying framework of the question--that one's premises are faulty. I would argue that the "X/Y problem" is a subset that is only useful when someone is asking about fixing something. They think they have diagnosed the problem and what they need to do to fix it, but that is incorrect. As the question here is not clearly something that needs to be fixed, I think "frame challenge" is actually the better term.
Sep 9, 2019 at 18:34 comment added Doug Deden @JakeGould Fair point. I had seen "frame challenge" used on a number of other SE sites, including RPG, worldbuilding, interpersonal, history, and writing, and I extrapolated too far. I now see that "X/Y problem" is a better term, especially for technical sites.
Sep 9, 2019 at 4:31 answer added fixer1234 timeline score: 8
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Sep 8, 2019 at 21:09 history edited Giacomo1968 CC BY-SA 4.0
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Aug 29, 2019 at 12:38 comment added Doug Deden @Mokubai Not my jargon -- I'm just using it because that's what the Meta post used. For SuperUser, and the other tech-oriented sites, "X/Y problem" is slightly better. (Although, "X" and "Y" can have lots of other meanings. :-) )
Aug 29, 2019 at 8:29 comment added Mokubai Mod "Frame challenge" is an awful piece of jargon, particularly in the computing world where there are many type of "framing" beyond phrasing. Congratulations, you found some jargon that is so worthless that I actually hate it.
Aug 28, 2019 at 19:08 comment added DavidPostill Mod @DougDeden I've addressed downvoting and commenting in my answer.
Aug 28, 2019 at 19:07 comment added DavidPostill Mod @Rob Answered as requested.
Aug 28, 2019 at 19:07 answer added DavidPostillMod timeline score: 3
Aug 28, 2019 at 18:24 comment added Doug Deden Also in the top answer to the linked Meta question: "The normal voting mechanism will decide whether you've succeeded..." That also indicates to me that downvoting and commenting would be the expected result, rather than a deletion.
Aug 28, 2019 at 16:46 comment added Doug Deden No worries. I'm not feeling singled out -- just trying to understand the process so I can do better next time.
Aug 28, 2019 at 16:45 comment added Doug Deden I see these two phrases in the top answer in the linked meta question: "They're more valid if you answer the surface question" and "You can hedge your bets a tiny bit by including a preamble that directly answers the superficial question." Those two points make me think my answer deserved a nudge to improve it, rather that a deletion.
Aug 28, 2019 at 16:44 comment added DavidPostill Mod Note that there are also other deleted answers that didn't answer the question as posted, so you answer has not been singled out..
Aug 28, 2019 at 16:41 comment added DavidPostill Mod If your read the answer in the meta question you link to, they recommend answering the original question first, before including your "however you should be doing this instead" answer.
Aug 28, 2019 at 15:04 comment added bertieb It should be noted that the original question is (at time of this comment) on hold for being primarily opinion based
Aug 28, 2019 at 15:03 comment added bertieb Cheers for that!
Aug 28, 2019 at 15:03 comment added Doug Deden @gparyani Good point. I asked it on MSE because that's where my search for "Are frame challenges acceptable?" led me. And I forgot to go back to MSU.
Aug 28, 2019 at 15:01 history edited Doug Deden CC BY-SA 4.0
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Aug 28, 2019 at 15:00 comment added gparyani Your question has been migrated to Meta Super User, as it is off-topic on Meta Stack Exchange. Questions about situations only applicable to one specific site should be asked on the relevant per-site meta, which can be accessed via the site switcher in the top right corner; Meta Stack Exchange is for situations that are generally applicable to multiple Stack Exchange sites.
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Aug 28, 2019 at 14:43 history asked Doug Deden CC BY-SA 4.0