Timeline for How should we act upon "Install OS X as virtual machine" questions?
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| Feb 22, 2012 at 15:46 | comment | added | slhck | The thing with the other question is that diamond mods refused to officially say anything about that decision, even though I asked about that at least three times. I'm fine if the community decides otherwise, but then we should re-think the entire issue. The only problem I have with your answer is that you are wrong about the license. The real question is whether it matters on SU. | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 15:36 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @slhc By the way, on this discussion, the conclusion is that virtualization questions are allowed (+16 in favor, +8 against is not quite consensus but is a clear dominant opinion). | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 15:33 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @slhck Oh, sorry, I think I misparsed your statement, so invert <1.7 and ≥1.7 in mine. It wouldn't be a decision from the moderation team, it would be a community decision (or an SE policy, but there's no such SE policy). For example, on the Hackintosh issue, what matters is the number of votes on Diago's answer, and that's hardly a consensus in comparison with Arjan's (which should not have been deleted). | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 14:08 | comment | added | slhck | > I disagree even with forbidding questions about OSX 1.7 in a VM – Why? No one forbids that. 10.7 may be virtualized on Apple hardware. It's exactly the other way round. I don't want to get into the whole Hackintosh thing, but there are no "imaginary license restrictions", they are there. And the fact that the moderation team has decided that they're off topic, well, can't change that, and if they follow this policy, they need to be consistent. | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 14:04 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @slhck Then OSX in a VM should be allowed on SU at least for versions up to 10.6. I disagree even with forbidding questions about OSX 1.7 in a VM, it's not up to Stack Exchange to enforce or even care about Apple's license, but I've already given up on fighting against SU's silly topic restrictions, so I'll leave that to others. All hackintosh questions are welcome on Unix & Linux (I can't promise we have the resident expertise, but we don't discriminate on the basis of imaginary license restrictions). | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 13:45 | comment | added | slhck | Not "illegal", but "off topic". Anyway, the thing with support from vendors is closely linked to it, since they are not allowed to support these guests. VMware once made a mistake when they shipped a version that did so, and they immediately released a "bugfix" that again would only allow OS X 10.7 as a guest. Regarding the license, it's specifically stated in 10.7, but not in the ones below. | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 12:17 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @slhck I haven't looked at Apple's license, but from Daniel's summary of it, virtualizing OSX on Apple hardware is not against the license. I don't see what support from other vendors (or even availability from Apple itself) has to do with Apple's licensing. And “illegal in SU moderation terms” is nonsense. You might decide that Hackintosh questions are not accepted on SU, that's stupid but your prerogative (you = the SU community); it doesn't make the questions “illegal”. | |
| Feb 22, 2012 at 10:01 | comment | added | slhck | Since all virtualization vendors now only offer support for OS X 10.7 and OS X Server, all other versions may not be virtualized. It is against the license. And we don't allow Hackintosh questions for the same reasons, so it's illegal in SU moderation terms. | |
| Jun 25, 2011 at 14:24 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | If it were legal, VMware Fusion would support it, wouldn't you say? But they don't — they only support OS X Server guest systems for their Mac OS X product. This is about OS X in general, i.e. as VM guest on Mac hardware. | |
| Jun 25, 2011 at 13:46 | history | answered | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | CC BY-SA 3.0 |