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| Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://superuser.com/ with https://superuser.com/
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| Mar 17, 2017 at 8:59 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.superuser.com/ with https://meta.superuser.com/
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| Jan 17, 2012 at 6:24 | comment | added | nhinkle Mod | Note for context of the conversation: 22 comments were self-removed by Diogo. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:32 | comment | added | Mokubai Mod | @DiogoRocha your own arguments are working against you, in the post you linked (meta.superuser.com/q/3154/79358) it states for migration to a site not listed in the list for you to "Vote to close as off-topic and flag for ♦ moderator attention using the free-text box." NOT by flagging as VLQ (which it isn't) as you seemingly have been doing. VLQ is not a subjective "VLQ for me" or "VLQ for my site", it's VLQ for everyone, on every site. This site is about helping people, not gaming the point systems. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:30 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha Two high reputation users and two diamond moderators tried to explain to you that what you're doing is wrong, why it's wrong, and what to do instead. Note that neither slhck nor I are moderators on this site. We don't process your flags, neither of us can. But you have finally convinced me that trying to explain it to you is a pointless waste of time that only serves to entertain the users in chat. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:26 | comment | added | slhck | @DiogoRocha How many people does it take to convince you, including moderators? There is a well-established policy, which you've been explained repeatedly, but you're refusing to accept it since you want to game the system for the flag weight bonus. Please accept that this is not how the system is supposed to work. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:22 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod |
@DiogoRocha "I was flagging because it needed to some moderator get the question and move to another forum" That's simply not true. You have the ability to vote to close, which works without any moderator involvement, so it didn't need moderator attention. See my answer again. You are trusted to do the right thing, and you deliberately don't.
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| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:21 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha What did you learn in the linked topic? You obviously did not learn to flag properly. It simply explains what to do in what situation, and you're not doing it. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:20 | comment | added | slhck | > "it needed to some moderator get the question and move to another forum" — No, it did not. And the post you've linked to says that you should just vote to close instead of flagging. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:18 | comment | added | Diogo | As you are saying, everyone that read this post (meta.superuser.com/q/3154/79358) and using what learned on it is cheating the system. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:13 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod |
@DiogoRocha You said yourself in your question: "as far I know, it doesn't belong here and should be closed or should me migrated". Yet you did not click on "This question does not belong here" (see screenshots in my edited answer), but selected a different reason just so you get the reward for it. That is cheating the system and you damn well know it, you said it yourself: "if i was doing this i would not have flag weight bonus"
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| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:12 | comment | added | slhck | @DiogoRocha I got most of my flag weight by flagging "Same problem" answers or Spam posts. Nothing else. Yes, it's harder to get a lot of flags this way, but that's not the point of them anyway. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:11 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha Badges are intended to reward you for your positive participation on the site. You were flagging wrong, trying to get the badge for it. This is abusing the flagging system and the moderators rejected one of your pointless flags. You also aren't supposed to abuse the ability to edit by editing only irrelevant issues of a post just so you get the editing related badges more quickly. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:09 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha You're not helping moderators by creating work for them without a good reason, which is what you were doing by flagging instead of voting. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:05 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha There still are valid flag reasons. You can, of course, continue to flag posts as very low quality if they are very low quality. It's just not as easy anymore raising your flag weight as before, as most problems with questions are probably of the "vote to close" kind. As I said: I'm working towards the badge and don't have it either. Just accept it as the rules of the system, continue to flag where appropriate, and move on. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 21:00 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha That's what I mean. Read my last comment again. The system does not reward votes. True. But nobody else is rewarded for them either. It's simply something we do to keep our site clean. But you tried to cheat the system, thereby gaining an advantage. The rejected flag is the consequence. Just accept it and move on. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:59 | comment | added | slhck | @DiogoRocha Yes. You don't get the flag weight. Super User's not a game you paid for and where you can demand a certain level of constant entertainment. You should only be (properly) flagging to clean the place up, not to get the flag weight in the first place. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:54 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha That's the whole point. Since you are allowed to vote, you are supposed to vote. Voting to close questions that don't belong here completely replaces Flagging questions that don't belong here. I know, you get no flag weight for it. Tough. That's why I'm not at 749 either. Deal with it. But cheating the system by selecting the wrong option, which results in considerably more work for moderators isn't the solution here. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:53 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha Edited my answer. Hope it's clearer. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:52 | history | edited | Daniel BeckMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:51 | comment | added | slhck | @DiogoRocha These are not entirely "different classes" of flags. It can be argued that you used the wrong flag reason, which isn't the biggest problem (although you should always choose the most appropriate reason). The problem is that you flagged while you should have just voted to close. It's the same thing that happened to KCotreau earlier that year. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:45 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha nhinkle answered a completely different question. Please read the question again, especially the part where it asserts that one of the flags was valid. Yours wasn't. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:29 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha The topic you linked to says: If a moderator processes a post with one or more flags, all flags are marked valid automatically, regardless what the post was flagged with. Unless the moderator rejects the flags first, which is what happened in your case: Your flag was rejected, and then the question was migrated. So that topic just does not apply here (you'll note the question is completely unrelated). | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:24 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha They can reject a flag and still act on the topic. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 20:16 | comment | added | slhck | @Diogo What exactly was last year? Can you link to any post or chat message? | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 19:36 | comment | added | slhck | @DiogoRocha If moderator reaction on your flags has been inconsistent, then indeed that should not happen. However, the way moderators should handle has been clear for a long time, and obviously they've let you pass with your flags until now. Of course, you were just trying to be helpful, but this is in a way abusing the system. And you can't say the reaction wasn't right, was it? | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 19:28 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha When you had below 3000 reputation, you were able to flag questions as off topic. This disappeared when you gained the ability to vote to close. That you were able to successfully flag as low quality after that when you should have been voting is simply goodwill by the moderators. You flag for a reason that simply does not apply to the topic at hand. You were simply using the wrong tool. Now you know, and now you can act appropriately. FWIW, 90+% of my flagging is not an answer, and I don't get to flag very much because of that. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 19:16 | comment | added | slhck | Also, if you say (quoting you): "flagged it as "Very low quality" because as far I know, it doens't belongs here and should be closed or should me migrated", then you need to check the flag reasons again. You probably want "off topic". But even then, only use this if there is no default migration path for the site you think the question should be migrated to. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 19:13 | comment | added | slhck | @Diogo If you want to read it all again, I'd suggest: What is with these invalid flags? | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 19:11 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @DiogoRocha The topic you link to says exactly what I wrote: You can VTC, so don't flag. What's your point? | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 19:09 | comment | added | Ivo Flipse Mod | @DiogoRocha your flag weight itself should never be a goal in itself. Granted it may feel a bit harsh to be set back 10 points, but there's no way to correct you without declining your flag. | |
| Jan 16, 2012 at 18:56 | history | answered | Daniel BeckMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |