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I've noticed this for a while, especially on StackOverflow - someone will ask a desktop/enduser related question and very quickly the question will get closed with a comment/resolution of 'Moved to SuperUser.com'.

For example - https://serverfault.com/questions/50122/107mb-s-network-file-copying-slowed-to-16-5mb-s-playing-local-media-files-wh

Whats the point in that? SuperUser.com is in closed beta - I get a link to the SU question, but I cannot access it. What happens with regard to the author? Do they get an automated invite to SU? Or do they simply lose access to their question?

People seem to be using SU as though it is open to the public, and moving stuff to it. Sure, it might belong there, but if we cannot access it then why?

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    The password isn't a secret - it's actually pretty easy to find if you look blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/07/… – Kyle Cronin Aug 5 '09 at 18:15
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    "ewok.adventure" for those too lazy. – TheTXI Aug 5 '09 at 18:20
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    I'm too lazy to read TheTXI's comment. Can somebody hack into my computer and sign me up? – mmyers Aug 5 '09 at 18:29
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    I'm too lazy to turn my computer on so somebody can hack into it. Can someone create an account for me, read my thoughts, and post them? – Hilarious Comedy Pesto Aug 5 '09 at 18:30
  • I'm too lazy to think. That is all. – TheTXI Aug 5 '09 at 18:31
  • @TheTXI: You're also too ugly to look at, but that doesn't stop you from appearing in public. – Hilarious Comedy Pesto Aug 5 '09 at 18:32
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    I'm – perbert Aug 5 '09 at 18:33
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    I'm too lazy to stop appearing in public. – TheTXI Aug 5 '09 at 18:34
  • Has everyone forgotten how to use google or have they never known how? – Troggy Aug 5 '09 at 18:43
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    I'm too lazy to use Google – TheTXI Aug 5 '09 at 18:50
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    @Kyle - thankyou, I wasn't even aware that there was a blog. @TheTXI - it isn't a case of being too lazy, more of a case of not really knowing where to look. @Troggy - why is this a 'jfgi' thing? Did I do something wrong by asking about this on the meta.* side of these sites, since it is meta discussion. To be honest, I don't think I would ever google 'superuser.com password' without first knowing that it was a 'nonpublic public' beta. To all intent and purpose, the SU site makes it look like you have to be invited, not that the password is available on a blog. – Moo Aug 5 '09 at 18:52
  • It was simply a comment, that is all. Just like this one! ;) – Troggy Aug 5 '09 at 19:02
  • @Moo You do bring up a common concern as SU is still in beta. I do like the suggestion of sending the password to any author that has had a question moved to SU. That would make it much more accessible to any question migrated to SU. However, no matter what status SU is in, questions that not appropriate for SO or SF are simply that. Do not worry though, you are not alone in your concern and do bring up valid points. This is why SU is coming soon to a internet connection near you. – Troggy Aug 5 '09 at 21:20
  • @Moo Also, meta is the correct place to ask these kind of concerns/suggestions. Keep in mind though, people are much more relaxed and prone to post entertaining comments on meta. We are all upvote and downvotes fanatics here also. – Troggy Aug 5 '09 at 21:24
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I really think the original submitter should be given the beta password somehow. Perhaps have links from migrated questions pass through an intermediate page that sets the password cookie for the user (optionally with a top bar notice).

  • This isn't a bad idea actually. – Troggy Aug 5 '09 at 19:01
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First of all, regardless of whether SU exists or not, your question wasn't suitable for SO. Luckily for you, SU does exist, so your question doesn't just get closed as not programming related and deleted in short order.

Second, SU's password is not a big secret by any stretch. Look, I'll post a link to it. And even if it were, it won't always be in beta. Eventually someone else will have the same question (probably you if you couldn't get into the beta), and need that same answer. Luckily, it will already exist on SU.

  • It wasn't my question, just one I was going to offer an answer for. – Moo Aug 5 '09 at 18:54
  • Some moderator needs to copy this answer and just auto-post it to this question every time it gets asked. Then close it and move it to SU... – Shog9 Aug 5 '09 at 19:16
  • @Shog9: I'm pretty sure you missed the step where somebody links to Welbog. – Hilarious Comedy Pesto Aug 5 '09 at 19:20
  • Welbog needs to be a moderator, then he can just link to himself linking to you linking to him. It'd save everyone a lot of time (except Welbog). – Shog9 Aug 5 '09 at 20:36
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SuperUser is in closed beta only so far as that it is closed to people who can't check the blog to find the password to it or ask someone for the password that's already in. This is a really really easy barrier of entry to overcome.

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    Yeah, its really really easy - if you knew there was a blog, and that the SU password resided in it somewhere. So why isn't that advertised in any of the closure threads? It seems very much like its left hanging to the casual SO/SF user. – Moo Aug 5 '09 at 18:49
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    Have you ever thought to try searching for "superuser password"? You made it to this site, it would have sounded like a logical thing to do. – TheTXI Aug 5 '09 at 18:51
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    No, I didn't - because the welcome page makes it look like a closed, invite only beta. If it were made a bit clearer on that page, then I would have. Why would I be seeking the password if I hadn't been invited in the first place? – Moo Aug 5 '09 at 19:02
  • Because there were no invitations – TheTXI Aug 5 '09 at 19:20
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    Moo is right, to anyone not familiar with the system won't know where to find the password, and the SU login page looks like there were invitations, and you can't get in without one. Someone who doesn't know about the blog, doesn't know there weren't invitations. – Carson Myers Aug 5 '09 at 23:11
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Besides, look at the related links of this question:

Related

  • wrongly tagged “belongs-on-superuser”?
  • How to access superuser.com?
  • Moving to super user while it’s still on beta?
  • Is the superuser beta invite-only?
  • Change the superuser.com link in the footer to say “(private beta)” until it’s open to all.
  • Do we really need a beta period for SuperUser?
  • When Super User Will Be Open
  • Serverfault down? How to get into superuser beta?
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    At a glance, none of those really address the point he is making here. – James McMahon Aug 5 '09 at 18:42
  • He asked how to access Superuser.com – perbert Aug 5 '09 at 21:31
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I think you do have a point. While the password is easy to find if you know where to look, a lot of people don't keep up with the SO blog.

However it either move it to a beta site where the questioner may not be able to access it, or, as Pesto pointed out, delete it from SO, in which case no one will be able to access it.

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