Timeline for When should a moderator not use his super-powers?
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Nov 28, 2016 at 21:08 | comment | added | harrymc | @Ramhound: I base my posts on my personal experience and I take bounties very seriously. Most of the bounties are from low-reputation users who give most of their reputation as bounty. They should get the best return for it. Too-strong application of rules maybe should be avoided. That 4th post was to avoid deleting outdated answers and it gave me the answer: I now convert them to community when they are down-voted. This way they stay available for the occasional XP user but I don't suffer. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:56 | comment | added | Ramhound | Take a look at your last 3 questions here, at meta.superuser.com, to understand what I just said.. The 4th newest question, you indicated you started to delete any answer that recieved a downvote, which to anyone else that didn't have the amount of your answers would end up blocking them from answering new questions. I see a pattern that is concerning, it concerns more then just I, given I recall the chatroom discussions in the past. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:51 | comment | added | Ramhound | @harrymc - I almost never read the title of a question. Advice for the future, the question body should contain the question your asking, not the title of the quesiton. Of course many of the answers you got is because, many of their authors, have fully explained all of this to you in the past. This isn't a one off event. Despite being having the most reputation on Superuser, you still randomly, decide to submit incomplete answers to questions for some reason. You then come here, and we provide feedback, which you seem to take personal. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:40 | comment | added | harrymc | @random: It wasn't a total non-answer (my subjective opinion), but this post aimed to go beyond bitching about its deletion. The deletion was just the spark that gave birth to this post. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:36 | comment | added | random Mod | It was a non-answer. It was deleted because it was a non-answer. Anyone with 20K rep would be right to do the same. Those who can't delete would downvote or flag to delete because that's what they are given based on their rep. A moderator should not use their powers when events present themselves if they want to turn a blind eye @har | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:36 | comment | added | harrymc | @Ramhound: Quite possibly my post was badly written. But the title did have a question mark : When should a moderator not use his powers? And the body meant to give a concrete example to discuss : Deleting an answer on a time-limited bounty rather than forcing improvement thru weaker actions. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:28 | comment | added | Ramhound | @harrymc - You don't know what people read. I read the entire body of the question you ask, which does not literally contain a question, due to absence of a sentence ending in a question mark in the body of the question itself. A moderator at the end of the day, is still an end user, which means they should review content just like everyone else does. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:25 | comment | added | harrymc | @Ramhound: But you must admit that this provocative title generated much interest and it did have a connection. It didn't help in the end, as most people apparently never read beyond the first paragraph. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:22 | comment | added | Ramhound | @harrymc - I am not "bashing" you. You wanted feedback. Just because you don't agree with that feedback, does not mean we are bashing you, you specifically do I even mention that fact your question does not even contain an actual question? Your actual question, "When should a moderator not use his super-powers?", has very little do with the question body. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:17 | comment | added | harrymc | @Ramhound: Not at all - read my edit on the post. I was trying to discuss some sort of netiquette about when deletions should be avoided or postponed or when down-voting should be preferred. I failed, as nobody wants to discuss this - bashing me seems like the preferred fun. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 20:10 | comment | added | Ramhound | @harrymc - You are the one who is defending your original revision of your answer. You then indicate that, because there are worst answers out there, the answer shouldn't have been deleted. In the end because of your high reputation, you are held to a higher standard, because your answers are no longer reviewed by the community in the same way a new user's answer would be reviewed. So I will repeat what I said, show us more respect, then to justify the answer's original revision with an excuse as lame as "there are worst answers out there" if thats the case FLAG THEM so they can be deleted. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 19:44 | comment | added | harrymc | @Ramhound: Of course I didn't mean it this way. Please allow me more common-sense than to insult people who care about this forum. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 14:42 | comment | added | Ramhound | When I vote on an answer, I look to see if a reasonable knowlegeable person could solve their problem, by that answe alone. If that cannot be done then I can't possible find the answer helpful to the community. Sadly due to your reputation harrymc and overall high answer score, your answers are likely never to enter the review queue, unless its a audit. You would have to submit a very short answer, for that answer to appear, in the review queue. "There are tons of answers on SU that are worse than mine was" - Please show us more respect then that. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 8:25 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | Read through your answer at least twice before deleting. Didn't take me very long. As for "finding the missing info on google" - the idea is people should be finding what they miss elsewhere here. We arn't yahoo answers after all. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 7:01 | comment | added | harrymc | @JourneymanGeek: We are all thankful to you and the moderators for keeping this forum as clean as possible. I agree it's not possible to deeply analyze each post and answer before acting. That's what guidelines and netiquettes are made for. I remark that not all too-brief answers are useless - I sometimes find such answers on stackoverflow very useful when one can find the missing info on google. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 6:54 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | I delete many of them. This is exactly the same as trying to argue your way out of a speeding ticket cause other people speed too. Moderation does not give me omniscience... But most people don't realise how much janitorial work takes place. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 6:51 | comment | added | harrymc | @JourneymanGeek: There are tons of answers on SU that are worse than mine was. I still claim that on this one you used a sledge-hammer when a little tap on the fingers was enough. The time for a netiquette for moderators has evidently not come yet, and it is clearly not to be developed in this post, but think about it. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 2:21 | history | edited | fixer1234 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Nov 28, 2016 at 1:51 | comment | added | fixer1234 | Just to clarify, I didn't mean to imply that the answer was, or might have been, judged differently. My point was that high-rep users shouldn't expect a free pass (i.e., I've contributed a lot to the site, so just let this crappy post slide). Experienced users are expected to know better and their posts are the examples new users emulate. Their own expectation should be being held more rigorously to site standards (not higher standards). It's hard to miss or ignore a highly visible bounty post, so it's appropriate for a moderator to not let it slide based on the author's other contributions. | |
Nov 28, 2016 at 0:25 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | Your answers are not judged differently. I don't particularly care how much rep you have when moderating, other than pointing out you should know better sometimes. | |
Nov 27, 2016 at 20:38 | vote | accept | harrymc | ||
Nov 27, 2016 at 20:36 | comment | added | harrymc | Thanks for the compliments. Besides still maintaining that my original answer wasn't content-less, just not up to my normal standards, you did explain why my answers are judged differently. I will have to be more careful - life was simpler when I had less reputation. | |
Nov 27, 2016 at 20:19 | history | answered | fixer1234 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |