Timeline for Proposed resolution : Quoting cannot be called plagiarism
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| Oct 26 at 16:32 | comment | added | Mark Amery | [2/2] Perhaps worst is that you weigh against the OP flagging similar answers by other users on the basis that it would just "ruin a bunch of people's day" to delete other such answers from the site. What?! It's one thing not to think it's worth putting in the enforcement effort, but that doesn't seem to be what you're saying - instead you seem to simply be conceding it would be an outright bad thing to enforce the rule equally against answers posted by users other than the OP here. But then why was his content any different? | |
| Oct 26 at 16:21 | comment | added | Mark Amery | Trying to make sense of this as someone who is more or less an outsider, I have to say, this answer is awful. You say there are definitions of plagiarism under which a SE answer clearly formatted as a quote and citing its source can be "plagiarism"... then don't cite any. (None of your quoted or linked sources actually support this contention.) You say the rules are written down, but don't point to any that distinguish between kosher quote-only answers and verboten ones, nor do you set out here any criteria by which to distinguish the two - just that cases are judged on their "merits". [1/2] | |
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| S Jun 10 at 23:49 | history | notice added | Journeyman GeekMod | Comments only | |
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| Jun 10 at 23:49 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | The discussion would be shorter if people were able to listen. I'm going to lock the comments on this a week, and come back and clean this up. The comments are going around in circles and there's literally nothing 'new' to say. | |
| Jun 10 at 8:36 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | We don't discuss suspensions. We've communicated with harry over why. We've communicated our expectations in general above. | |
| Jun 10 at 8:34 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | @JourneymanGeek There are several topics at hand, so for now I am trying to narrow down on only one topic: the use of the term plagiarism. Forget about everything else. According to all dictionaries I've seen, quoting with appropriate sourcing is not plagiarism. Yet, OP's "account is temporarily suspended for plagiarism". Why? | |
| Jun 9 at 8:39 | history | edited | Journeyman GeekMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Clarified with respect to Franck's comment
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| Jun 9 at 8:02 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | We do not discuss suspensions without express permission of the user involved. I have provided a comprehensive explanation of our expectations - with the goal of avoiding the need for further suspensions. Its worth reading the earlier part about not completely copying sources, and the later part about it not being sufficient on its own, rather than cherrypicking a single sentence fragment. This post is best seen as a entire work, rather than a series of standalone quotations from other sources. | |
| Jun 9 at 7:21 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | You wrote "Quoting with appropriate sourcing isn't plagiarism". AFAIK, OP has always quoted with appropriate sourcing. Yet, OP's "account is temporarily suspended for plagiarism". Why? | |
| May 30 at 23:42 | comment | added | Ramhound | After looking at nearly 100 of those links, I would say, the community would not be harmed by the removal of the vast majority of those answers. However, I don't feel trying to improve nearly 200 answers, most are 7 years old would provide any substantial contribution to the community. In other words, these answers helped the authors of those questions, but none of those questions have hundreds of votes or hundreds of thousands of views. | |
| May 30 at 20:56 | comment | added | harrymc | I have now added some URLs to my answer. I wait to see how many of them you will delete as "low quality". Would you accuse your fellow moderator of plagiarism? | |
| May 30 at 8:59 | comment | added | harrymc | I have answered this in my post. | |
| May 30 at 1:10 | comment | added | Ramhound | I encourage getting rid of any answer that doesn’t meet our minimum quality expectations, but if you are going to use a script to find that content, you better be darn sure that content is what you say it is. Which is still the reason I haven’t signed up for automatically flagging spam even if it’s %99.999999 accurate | |
| May 30 at 0:28 | history | edited | Journeyman GeekMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Adding inline citations, simply cause I was told that its not clear where the quotes are from. This probably goes above and beyond citation expectations.
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| May 30 at 0:12 | history | edited | Journeyman GeekMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
added 241 characters in body
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| May 29 at 22:52 | history | answered | Journeyman GeekMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |