Timeline for Is software-rec an unwanted tag, yes or no?
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| Jul 12 at 23:42 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | @Mokubai I'd like to argue further saying that adding a tag is cleaner than ignoring questions etc. but meta.stackexchange.com/q/401324/178179 killed the little motivation I had to help anyway so let's all bury our heads into the sand together | |
| Jul 12 at 23:31 | comment | added | Mokubai Mod | @FranckDernoncourt while I applaud your intention to "clean up the site" by making these questions more visible, your method is 100% the worst possible way to do it. You basically decided to make a cake, threw all the ingredients around the kitchen, turned the oven on and then just walked away after making a complete mess saying that everything someone needs to make the cake is right there so it's a job well done. You say that a mythical someone could improve the questions in the future which is nice in theory but is just an excuse for not doing it properly to begin with. | |
| Jul 12 at 14:30 | vote | accept | CommunityBot | ||
| Jul 12 at 5:27 | comment | added | Robotnik | @Franck I get your reasoning and applaud you for your effort, but I agree with JG - adding a tag that the community is trying to remove is more of a hindrance. The benefit of grouping them is dubious: you were able to find those questions without the tag, so it stands to reason that others can find them without it too. If you're looking to do a bunch of tag edits, there's plenty of tags ready to be removed, like microsoft? Otherwise if you're specifically focused on software rec, Take them case-by-case, and reword them so they fit the site or vote to close (as per the meta guidance). :) | |
| Jul 12 at 2:49 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | no, I turned "some questions need fixing but which ones?" to "here are the questions that need fixing ". I didn't feel the need to post a duplicate question on meta. | |
| Jul 12 at 2:47 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | Well no, you turned "the question needs fixing" to "the questions need fixing and there's a pile up on a tag the community wanted gone". We have meta for a reason. Did you consider, perhaps bringing it up again on meta so the community could help sort out the real problem? | |
| Jul 12 at 2:45 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | retagging is better than ignoring. | |
| Jul 12 at 2:43 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | no no no, see. The expectation is to improve the post, not just retag it for someone else and forget about it, when there's a ongoing request to nuke the tag. | |
| Jul 12 at 2:39 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | also, I'm going through already closed posts. NOT closing more because most of those were deemed non fixable, and I can reduce the impact of/on the front page. | |
| Jul 12 at 2:38 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | Because retagging makes it easier to see which posts to improve. | |
| Jul 12 at 2:37 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | I just quoted the most upvoted answer. And I didn't see any rewrites, just retags. So.. how does retagging follow the intent of the answer when the goal is cleaning up and improving where possible as opposed to making the pile of things that need handling taller? We have a meta for a reason, which is very much so we can co-operate and be on something akin to the same page. | |
| Jul 12 at 2:34 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | Closing goes against the most upvoted answer, which stated "the rule always was: Can the question be rewritten to ask for a technique rather than a tool? If so, then it should be rewritten. If not, then it's probably not right for us." | |
| Jul 12 at 2:34 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | See, if the tag is gone, we don't need to flood the front page. Voting appropriately is the 'right' thing to do | |
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| Jul 12 at 2:31 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | No, the retagging makes it easier to clean up. Unless we just want bury our heads in the sand and ignore unfit questions? | |
| Jul 12 at 2:30 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | In the same answer "That being said, I'm all for cleaning up this tag and, ultimately, removing it from the site. But this is a very delicate tag to clean up." - which means you just added more to clean up. And this is precisely why one asks again and keeps the community in the loop | |
| Jul 12 at 2:26 | comment | added | Franck Dernoncourt | "sigh In general the convention is to ask first before doing a mass tag" that was already asked on meta.superuser.com/q/8505/116475 and the most upvoted answer stated "the rule always was: Can the question be rewritten to ask for a technique rather than a tool? If so, then it should be rewritten. If not, then it's probably not right for us.". My retagging was in that spirit: tag such questions so that they can be either rewritten or closed. Otherwise, plenty of unfit questions are lingering around, as they have been doing for years. Thank you Franck. | |
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| Jul 12 at 2:01 | history | answered | Journeyman GeekMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |