Timeline for Why aren't driveby downvoters themselves detected and penalised?
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| May 15, 2012 at 2:35 | comment | added | nhinkle Mod | Long story short, unless there's a repeated pattern of voting abuse from the same person then there's nothing to punish. Users who repeatedly engage in abusive voting patterns do get investigated and dealt with accordingly. That's about all we can say, except that @slhck has given us no body parts but is a very valuable member of the community whom we appreciate very much. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:41 | comment | added | barlop | let us continue this discussion in chat | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:41 | comment | added | slhck | @barlop I hope they don't want my body :P By the way, I removed the screenshot, I guess it makes more sense now. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:37 | vote | accept | barlop | ||
| May 14, 2012 at 9:36 | comment | added | barlop | @slhck they should make you a moderator.. they have the fruits of 29840 rep points from you, and a good blog post on ffmpeg. What more do they want from you? do they want your testicles too? I see your profile pic is now a bird so maybe they got them too. i'll accept your answer, since you've made such an effort | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:34 | comment | added | slhck | @barlop Unfortunately I can't tell you more because I'm not a moderator and don't have access to their super secret tools – that's all I know ;) | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:31 | comment | added | barlop | @slhck didn't quite work in your screenshot +8 to correct -10 ;-) (and no i'm not asking you why the algorithm didn't make it +10). But, re moderator looking at vote correlation between the receiver and the other user,to catch the other user. If the other user was just lurking, then would a moderator know what 2 users to compare, to see a vote correlation? | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:15 | comment | added | slhck | @barlop Correct, I had to scroll back in your reputation history in order to find something – and even then, it only happens on the next day. But yeah, that's why I included the screenshot, just to show that it does work. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:10 | comment | added | barlop | @slhck I can see how me posting the screenshot could've caused you to read all sorts of things into the question as you pondered the purpose of the screenshot. Not much purpose to the screenshot I suppose. And it seems to have confused DanielBeck too. So you're not alone in that. By the way.. while I didn't intend my screenshot to be given much attention.. FTR, there's no way they'd have been reverted in that screenshot as it only just happened. Normally the operation that fixes these things is run something like once every 24h. It'd never have happened immediately. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:09 | comment | added | slhck | And yes, your screenshot is confusing in that case. I already pointed that out twelve hours ago. @bar | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:06 | comment | added | slhck | @barlop You mention "obvious cases" (and later post a screenshot of three downvotes that have not been reverted, thus, were not detected). Then you ask why there's no one penalized. This calls for misinterpretation. Are you really complaining that I'm explaining something that you already know? I'm terribly sorry. Nevertheless I guess your (actual) question is answered anyhow, is it? | |
| May 14, 2012 at 9:02 | comment | added | barlop | @DanielBeck I absolutely did not ask why they are not detected. That is absurd. I wrote 3 lines. That's you reading stupid things in and misinterpreting it. I suppose my screenshot could have caused you to think I was asking about a particular case. Or that I was interested in arguing whether that case was an "obvious" one. The question wasn't which cases are obvious and which aren't. Maybe i'd have caused less confusion if i'd have removed the screenshot. But the 3 sentences I wrote did not ask about any specific case and were pretty clear. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 6:46 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @barlop You did not actually ask how they're penalized. You just asked why they're not detected (and then penalized) even though these are "obvious cases". slhck's answer then pointed out that it's not obvious, and the reason the votes aren't reversed and users not penalized might be because for the system, it doesn't qualify as inappropriate downvoting. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 21:46 | comment | added | slhck | It's still an irregularity in voting behavior. Suspension messages are never too explicit. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 21:39 | comment | added | barlop | A drive by downvoter that is detected and did the votes himself, not with socks puppets, not by influencing others, doesn't seem to meet the definition of "voting irregularities". Shouldn't the definition be adjusted? | |
| May 13, 2012 at 20:58 | comment | added | slhck | Please check my updated answer. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 20:58 | history | edited | slhck | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 13, 2012 at 20:54 | comment | added | slhck | Wow, you are pretty furious about this. Can you relax a little and tone down the caps lock? As I said, votes are just reversed as if nothing happened – at least when the system deals with it. If moderators or the team is involved, that might look differently. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 20:51 | comment | added | barlop | -1 "If there's nothing detected, no one is penalized" OBviously i'm not asking how does the system penalise them when the system doesn't detect it. OBVIOUSLY it cannot. So simply. If there IS something detected. Are they penalised, if so how!!!!!! WHEN IT DETECTS IT.. simple question | |
| May 13, 2012 at 20:50 | comment | added | slhck | If there's nothing detected, no one is penalized. As far as I know detected serial downvotes are just reversed and that's it. They're removed from the system but apart from that nothing happens. (I was just including the screenshot to emphasize that there's no way for the system to reliably tell what is a serial downvote and what not.) | |
| May 13, 2012 at 20:47 | comment | added | barlop | I'm not saying the Algorithm doesn't work!!! Or that it doesn't detect them!!! I -Know- that the algorithm detects it sometimes, and I said so in my question, which was 3 sentences long, I said it can sometimes correct it in the third sentence. (So you didn't need to show me a screenshot showing me that it can). My question is does the person that did it get penalised, if so, how? (I obviously mean, when the system does manage to detect it) | |
| May 13, 2012 at 19:12 | history | answered | slhck | CC BY-SA 3.0 |