Timeline for How are we going to deal with Windows 8 on ARM?
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| Jun 3, 2012 at 14:02 | comment | added | n611x007 | why should we bother about the hardware? instead of restricting tablets, restrict operating systems | |
| May 24, 2012 at 1:19 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek Mod | meta.superuser.com/questions/3306/… and meta.superuser.com/questions/3266/… are probably relevant on a wider aspect of it. I think the current/upcoming breed of dead simple SBCs (the Raspberry Pi and the Via APC) may be another thing that we'd need to look at - the latter is more powerful, has better specs but runs android, and the former is runs a desktop OS. | |
| May 21, 2012 at 20:16 | comment | added | Ivo Flipse Mod | @DanielBeck if you have a better/alternative proposal, feel free to post it. I personally agree, because I think its going to be a non-issue. I would always encourage people to ask their questions on Apple/Android first, but not ban them from asking them here. Just as we do with OS X and linux | |
| May 20, 2012 at 18:15 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | Apple.SE was founded with a topic overlap that created a messed up migration situation right from the start, and nobody cared, despite "iOS.SE" being a reasonable alternative. The policy on migrations and overlap is reasonable and clear and was recently featured again on the SE blog. | |
| May 20, 2012 at 18:09 | comment | added | slhck | Good argument. I'm still somewhat uncomfortable with opening up to iOS/Android (just think about the migration/overlap issues we have with Apple). A radical everything or nothing approach might not always work here :/ @dan | |
| May 20, 2012 at 18:07 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | Not sure yet. Right now I'm opposed of including Windows ARM (as it's just Metro and that's not better than unjailbroken iOS in its limitations) unless we open the floodgates to everything else as well. The availability of other sites shouldn't be the deciding factor though, as the sites should have an understandable and consistent policy when viewed on their own. | |
| May 20, 2012 at 17:59 | comment | added | slhck | @DanielBeck So what do you propose? | |
| May 20, 2012 at 17:56 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | 0% of all relevant Windows software runs on Windows ARM. It's branded Windows (how much Windows is in Windows Phone?) and it shared a single user-visible feature/API with the real OS, not unlike Launchpad on OS X. If OS X Mountain Lion booted into a Launchpad view and allowed execution of iOS apps wouldn't make iPad any less of an electronic device. | |
| May 20, 2012 at 10:51 | comment | added | user939 | @badp Dunno. I'm just pointing out its a grey area that is only going to get more grey until its totally drab. I suppose Apple has no choice but to travel the same route--having two distinct operating systems when the hardware for tablets is becoming cheaper and more powerful doesn't make sense. I'd suggest that any metro questions be on topic as they apply equally to W8 tabs as well as the desktop. | |
| May 20, 2012 at 8:14 | comment | added | badp | @Will So yeah, the only difference in the two scenarios is that the WOA-only apps also run on "traditional" Windows. So are you going to rule Metro apps off-topic as well? It'd probably make sense to extend the SU topic instead. | |
| May 20, 2012 at 8:12 | comment | added | badp | @slhck Don't let the fact other SEs exist get in the way of defining your own scope. Sites can overlap - it's okay! | |
| May 19, 2012 at 22:53 | comment | added | user939 | @badp Can you run an iOS app on OSX? You'll be able to run any WinRT app on a Win8 ARM device as well as your desktop (and eventually phone). You won't be able to run your Win32 apps on the ARM. So it's not exactly radically stripped down. I'd bet that win32 is going bye bye in the next ten or twelve years. Possibly sooner, if MS hacks together a compatibility layer to run win32 apps on WinRT. Would probably have to involve some kind of virtualization, and would take a lot of effort... | |
| May 19, 2012 at 19:31 | comment | added | slhck | @badp it'd be easier to allow iOS and Android if we didn't already have s site for both. But if we can open up for something new, why not? | |
| May 19, 2012 at 12:44 | comment | added | badp | So iOS, "merely based on Mac OS X, but radically stripped down in terms of user interaction" is no go but WOA, "merely based on Windows 8, but radically stripped down in terms of user interaction" is okay? (The only software source in Windows on ARM is the Store; you only get Metro multitasking + Office.) | |
| May 19, 2012 at 10:26 | comment | added | Lekensteyn | @Shog9 There is also a unix.stackexchange.com site, I think that would be a good site for such questions. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 22:41 | comment | added | slhck | Tough call. The availability of (basic) Linux functionality on a broad range of re-branded operating systems definitely makes it harder to draw a line there (except in clear cut cases where we actually have a site dedicated to a brand, like Android). I personally would say it's on topic regardless. You could mention your device, as long as it's about doing something that you could probably do on a "normal" computer as well (i.e. not phoning or texting someone, or downloading apps from whatever the app store for Palm is called these days). But let's see what others suggest. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 22:34 | comment | added | Shog9 | Sure, let's go with that. I'm trying to script automatic backups using cron and the subset of ordinary Linux utilities that ship on WebOS. On topic so long as I carefully avoid mentioning my device ("For reasons I cannot go into, I don't have gzip on this machine")? On topic as long as I don't touch on the GUI? Or completely off-topic unless I happen to be talking about WebOS on the TouchPad? | |
| May 18, 2012 at 22:22 | comment | added | slhck | See, that's the thing. WebOS, just like Android, is based on a Linux kernel. It's still a phone OS. (And the Palm Pre is not a tablet). Is your question about how to use the features of WebOS or do you merely want to move some files via command line, connect with SSH, etc.? | |
| May 18, 2012 at 22:16 | comment | added | Shog9 | My aging Palm Pre runs Linux with full root access out of the box... On topic? | |
| May 18, 2012 at 22:12 | comment | added | slhck | And for what it's worth, if my fridge fluently ran Windows 7, I'd even say fridges were on topic for SU. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 22:04 | history | answered | slhck | CC BY-SA 3.0 |