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Feb 6, 2010 at 5:15 comment added Lance Roberts @Diago, Most 'Exact Duplicates' aren't very exact, so all answers don't transfer well. (took me a minute to post this one with the comment timer reset, at least I'm glad Jeff took it down to 15 sec).
Feb 6, 2010 at 5:07 comment added Lance Roberts @Diago, My sentence starting with 'My position...' was meant to show that it wasn't necessarily Jeff's position. It was in addition to agreeing with Jeff.
Feb 5, 2010 at 22:04 comment added Diago @Lance I disagree, and I don't think Jeff is saying it's OK to do so either. If a question is meant to be closed, and you answer it anyway, your doing the OP, and the community a disservice, since you therefore invalidate the duplicate. Also your creating a duplicate answer. However, the purpose of this discussion is to decide if something should be done, either via stricter penalty boxes for SU, or by change the closing process, or nothing at all. In the end, no matter what community or myself feel or say, the site is Jeff's and he needs to decide what is best for the goals he has with SU.
Feb 5, 2010 at 20:37 comment added Lance Roberts @Diago, I agree with Jeff. My position would be that it's fine to answer and vote-to-close a question, since the closed question will be around forever, it should have a good answer. The problem is that the 3ks aren't voting to close. I'm only halfway there now on SU, but when I get there I'll be throwing more close votes into the mix.
Feb 5, 2010 at 14:42 comment added Ivo Flipse I would rather see all these smartphone questions disappear to StackExchange sites, they will get a better reception and end all discussion
Feb 5, 2010 at 14:12 comment added quack quixote @Diago - ah. so "interfacing" has a specific meaning here. see, i assume that an SSH server running on an iPhone and being connected to from a desktop computer would count as "interfacing". the way you explain it is actually much more exclusive than the faq wording suggests.
Feb 5, 2010 at 14:06 comment added Diago @~quack. Not taking the disagreement in any way. The correct interpretation is: If there is a problem between your iPhone and Computer when syncing, ie, I can't get iTunes to connect or it is not syncing my calender, then it will be allowed. However anything running on the iphone with no computer involved, even if it is SSH, is not acceptable. The only reason I can be clear on it is because I asked for the FAQ update.
Feb 5, 2010 at 14:03 comment added quack quixote @Diago: the FAQ indicates that doing things with smartphones that involve a computer is OK to ask questions about. (or.. have i misread "except smartphones such as iPhone that interface with your computer" ?) as SSH isn't a standard feature of the iPhone, the device seems to be used more as a computer than a phone. this is one area that i think your interpretation of the FAQ is at fault, not mine. but since you are the SU mod here, i do try to respectfully defer to your judgement. i hope you don't take my disagreeing opinion as disrespect.
Feb 5, 2010 at 13:47 comment added Diago @~quack - You've just give the perfect example as to why this whole posts exists, as a high rep user yourself, your interpertation of the FAQ is that the iPhone question is ok, yet it is outside of the SU scope completely.
Feb 5, 2010 at 13:37 comment added fretje @Jeff: If you don't see the problem, please try using the site effectively and try to be really active on it for a couple of days, then you'll see the light, or rather... the darkness. Also: look at the links that random provided in his answer.
Feb 5, 2010 at 13:33 comment added Ivo Flipse Its useful for SlidetoAsk, not SU
Feb 5, 2010 at 13:25 comment added quack quixote @Kev: i agree; while most iPhone questions are clearly not allowed, that one actually seemed useful. *shrug*
Feb 5, 2010 at 12:25 comment added Kev I was surprised at closing the iPhone SSH question, I'd have been quite interested to see what the community folks do with a jailbroken phone. It also seemed in the right ballpark for SU.
Feb 5, 2010 at 12:19 comment added Ivo Flipse @Jeff if you start counting who of all 3000+ users actually uses their powers, that SU probably has a much lower activity rate in moderating compared to SO
Feb 5, 2010 at 12:04 comment added Diago @Jeff. I am happy to accept that you feel it's not a problem. I think the bigger objective for me is to get the community to work together. Also I had limited time to come up with samples and only pulled from the last 4 days. I will work on some more this evening that highlights it more accuratly.
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:52 comment added George Stocker @Jeff Atwood So maybe it's not a problem in micro. But have you run queries against SO And against SU to determine if it's something that happens often in aggregate? Say How much reputation is gained by users asking duplicate questions or users answering duplicate questions? I think that'd provide the data you need. Could you update your answer with it?
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:27 comment added Jeff Atwood @arjan well, that's also my point -- none of the examples cited seem to be done with the explicit goal of gaming the system. People are providing the best answers they can, though I'd say #1 was a huge stretch, a terrible question that didn't deserve answers.
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:22 comment added Arjan I wouldn't know if #5 is a Copy & Paste action. Surely, the same user posted a reference to the very same software over 3 months earlier. Maybe he didn't recall posting that on Super User --like if he often refers to that software elsewhere on the internet as well--, maybe he couldn't easily find that duplicate, or maybe it's indeed a way to get reputation. But: it does not seem to be a blatant Copy & Paste of that other answer, does it?
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:21 comment added Jeff Atwood @alex as a diamond mod on SU, I would click delete on that clearly cut-and-pasted answer, then click "recalc rep" on the target user.
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:18 comment added alex @Jeff what recalcs?
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:09 comment added Jeff Atwood I really don't see a serious problem based on the examples cited. We had complaints about users answering, then closing, questions on SO for a long time -- and it was never a big enough problem to warrant treatment.
Feb 5, 2010 at 11:00 comment added fretje I think Jeff is just in denial (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial).
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