Timeline for Can we make Raspberry Pi questions off-topic and avoid hurting Raspberry Pi.SE?
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| May 10, 2020 at 20:59 | comment | added | user1061912 | Excellent idea. +1 | |
| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:56 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/ with https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/
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| Mar 20, 2017 at 10:18 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://superuser.com/ with https://superuser.com/
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| May 28, 2013 at 1:09 | comment | added | surfasb | Notice StackOverflow doesn't migrate ALL SQL questions to DBA Exchange. | |
| Jan 2, 2013 at 18:05 | comment | added | Tamara Wijsman | @slhck: "Some moderators seem to currently be enforcing a personal policy" has "seem" for a reason; stating it is simply not true is impossible since you can't change what others see from you, unless you can point to a place where you told me so prior to this question, which you and others didn't. This way was the most ideal way, see the above two comments; it's better than to say nothing, I like resolution > ignorance. There's both sides to a discussion, if one side ends up being ignorant you shouldn't be surprised for the other side to be negative; and this goes both ways. An eye for an eye. | |
| Jan 2, 2013 at 17:57 | comment | added | Tamara Wijsman | @Sathya: It's not for the OP to choose that if the FAQ doesn't have any mention of the subject, I don't see any community decision mention that; this is why we can VtC and if a moderator overrides our decision then he should be able to base that on a community consensus, which didn't happen in this case. My statements hence were well framed and were not ridiculous, which you should have seen based on closer inspection. I'm glad you felt the most offended; because you have acted with the worst response to this situation, you have negatively commented without doing prior inspection. We are quit. | |
| Jan 2, 2013 at 17:51 | comment | added | Tamara Wijsman | @Sathya: I'm quite offended by the way you handled this meta question, and even more offended by the way you need to personally point out mistakes by others. You've been here long enough yourself to know that it needs to be decided by the community whether something is on-topic or not for edge cases. No such decision was made yet and multiple attempts to ask the relevant moderator(s) yielded no community decision, thus it is fair to assume that moderator act on their own. Hence, there is a need for a façade like this to get that community decision going; an accusation beats ignorance. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 11:24 | comment | added | slhck Mod | Let's just say I would never have single-handedly voted to reopen the question if I wasn't sure these questions were considered on topic before. I'm sorry if that personally set you up in some way, but saying "Some moderators seem to currently be enforcing a personal policy based on their personal thoughts" is simply not true. And this is why people might react negatively to your statements, because they are in itself accusing—not the ideal way to start an otherwise constructive discussion. But I guess this is settled for now, I just wanted to comment on that part. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 10:02 | history | edited | Tamara Wijsman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Removed the "loaded" words which reflected something which isn't actually happening in the present, but I was foreseeing that could happen in the future; they resulted in some people being offended, which isn't what I'm after.
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| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:37 | history | edited | Tamara Wijsman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added 1 characters in body; edited title
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| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:32 | comment | added | Tamara Wijsman | @Sathya: Why do you set up yourself offensively each time I voice an opinion? I didn't refer to you; don't feel so offended, geezz... Some moderators were indeed doing that, is it therefore wrong for me to point out where my confusion comes from? No. I do care for both communities, is it wrong for me to point out I think they're hurting one another? No. And yes, I did clearly put out my thoughts so that everyone who is remotely interested could see why I'm thinking the way I do and to learn the hard way why moderators have been opposing that train of thoughts. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:27 | comment | added | Tamara Wijsman | @nhinkle: An example (or a Meta.SO / Area 51 thread pointing that out) would speak more than a thousand words. Thanks for taking into consideration from which point I come from. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:24 | comment | added | nhinkle Mod | As a side note, even if it were determined that R.pi questions would be better sent to the new site (which I think we've established is not the case), out-right closing them when there's no direct migration option is far more harmful to both communities than leaving it open here. A new user whose question is closed right off the bat for no apparent good reason is unlikely to want to become a returning member of either community. First impressions are important, and this sort of thing does not leave a good first impression. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:21 | comment | added | nhinkle Mod | @TomWijsman it's been established from previous experiments (and failures) that "seeding" a beta site from an established site is not effective. I understand that you may not have been aware of that previously and don't fault you for it, but you may want to take that information into account henceforth. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:21 | comment | added | Sathyajith Bhat Mod | @TomWijsman if all you wanted was to make clear if RaspeberryPi questions are on/off topic, there are better ways of framing. Explicitly stating that we're hurting other community and then personal attacks stating they are enforcing personal opinions is baseless. I'm really appalled to read this from you. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:21 | comment | added | Jivings | @TomWijsman If it hurts our growth significantly then it's a perfect example of why RaspberryPi.SE shouldn't be allowed to graduate. That is why sites start in Beta after all. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:21 | vote | accept | Tamara Wijsman | ||
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:19 | comment | added | Tamara Wijsman | @Sathya: It could possibly hurt them in the future, the current low amount of questions isn't actively doing that though; I'm not blaming it on the mods but asking them to poke for a community consensus, they didn't do that thus hence this question. The Raspberry Pi is fairly new, so I for once do not know whether it's on-topic or not and hence wanted to make that clear. Thanks for calling this ridiculous! | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:18 | answer | added | nhinkleMod | timeline score: 8 | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:17 | answer | added | Manishearth | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:17 | comment | added | Sathyajith Bhat Mod | I'm quite offended by your statement that Super User's hurting Raspberry Pi, and even more offended by you enforcing your personal beliefs and then projecting yourself as a saviour of the other community and then blame it on the mods. You've been here long enough to know what's on-topic, what's not. There's no need for all these façades. You also know the regular drill - Super User accepts questions which are on-topic for this site and another Stack Exchange, and it's up to the OP to choose where it needs to be asked. I really don't understand why all this ridiculousness. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:11 | answer | added | Jivings | timeline score: 21 | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 9:10 | comment | added | Manishearth | Most of the RasPi qs on SU aren't like the ones on RPi.SE. There already are established rules for site overlap an migration which straighten such issues out. Flag posts if you want them to be migrated (just to be clear, flag new posts, not old ones). Do not close them as off topic. | |
| Dec 8, 2012 at 8:56 | history | edited | Tamara Wijsman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 8, 2012 at 8:48 | history | asked | Tamara Wijsman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |