Timeline for Do downvotes for new users have to be worked off?
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| Mar 20, 2013 at 19:55 | comment | added | cpast | @slhck People would think that if all their previous downvotes had been on 1-rep users. The first time they downvote a user with >1 rep, they'd wonder why this downvote cost them. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 11:07 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | @slhck I was thinking about the support requests that would come if this request were implemented. This was intended as an example of the kind of request we might need to deal with if the cost of down voting answers depended on who the downvotee is. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 9:39 | vote | accept | Karan | ||
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:58 | comment | added | slhck Mod | @Karan Yes, that's why I mentioned it. You always lose rep for downvoting an answer – I just didn't understand why Daniel mentioned it as an edge case. Maybe a misunderstanding. Anyway, there's no threshold: You have to delete it yourself (you get a badge for that), or users with 20k rep vote to delete it. As for wrong, but not deleted answers: Remember that these can also act as a signpost of what not to do (this has often been cited as the rationale for keeping them around, at least for a while). | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:36 | comment | added | Karan | @slhck: I don't understand, when is it not the case that downvoting answers costs the downvoter rep? Also, what's the downvote threshold for an answer to be deleted? What about answers that don't reach that threshold because users want to preserve their own rep? I've seen lots of answers by new users that are plain incorrect, but flagging is not possible because no flagging allowed for incorrect answers. I fail to see why those answers should persist on the site even if they don't receive lots of downvotes. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:30 | comment | added | slhck Mod | w.r.t. "I down votes this crap answer, and I lost rep?", this is always the case? @Karan Keep in mind that downvoting bad answers should result in getting them deleted anyway, so you'd get your reputation back. Or the answer is fixed, so you can remove your downvote. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:19 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | Remember that there are enough basic questions on basic reputation and voting rules on meta sites as it is. Introducing exceptions like this will only increase the volume because people don't understand what they're seeing: "I down votes this crap answer, and I lost rep? This has never happened before!". Remember, you're voting on the posts, not the people. It shouldn't matter who the author is. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:16 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | This would make the entire voting system more complex. Right now, it doesn't matter on who or what you vote. Next thing you know, someone wants up votes on posts by people who reached the daily rep cap not count towards the daily voting limit. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:16 | comment | added | Karan | Ah, thanks. I understand now how that bit works, but still don't see why it would be all that difficult to fix. Any hits regarding the first bit? (See my first comment above.) Do you think it's justified? | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:14 | history | edited | Daniel BeckMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:11 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | Regarding the reputation cap limit. I like the water bucket analogy, because this is how it works (mostly). | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:11 | comment | added | Karan | Hard to understand, perhaps, but as long as it works reliably... Would it be hard to fix though? Have suggestions regarding these cases been made already? Didn't find anything so far on MSU or MSO. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:09 | comment | added | Daniel Beck Mod | I'm guessing here, but introducing new exceptions to these edge cases will make reputation even harder to understand than it is now. | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:08 | comment | added | Karan | Regarding the related bit - so even a manual recalc doesn't fix this? | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:06 | comment | added | Karan | So if bad answers can be posted with impunity by new users, why should downvoters be penalised for the same? | |
| Mar 20, 2013 at 8:04 | history | answered | Daniel BeckMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |