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This isn't actually an answer proper, but there's a few points where I suspect the process of well, all this could have run better. Hindsight is 20/20 , and this is not really a reflection on SE's moderation and administration processes. I'm posting this as a root access regular, and someone intimately familiar with the channel and its culture, and having heard one side of the issue. To mangle a quote from b5, understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth, and I'm hoping this gives another perspective of this.

  • There wasn't any indication that an automatically triggered script was an issue before action was taken here. In general, the rules seem to be bot can't do anything a regular user can't. I suspect that's the real issue here, since it felt like a sudden decision, rather than a wider sitewide policy. We'd have had a lot less of a mess if we weren't working out what the lines were after action was taken. I do understand that the dev team explicitly didn't want this behaviour, but there was no way that the upstream or RA bot devs would have known of this.

  • Neither the regulars in the room, nor newbies had mentioned any issue with the bot. If we had felt so, we could have probably had a word with @allquixotic. The robogreeting was actually tweaked in consultationtweaked in consultation with the users, and for most part, the bot hasn't been a annoyance.

  • The first we knew of this was the bot getting suspended - which is a tiny bit like getting a telegram delivered through the roof by a swat team.

A little less shock and awe, might have been nice. @allquixotic has been very nice about tweaking his version of the chatbot (as time permits!), and this could have been probably handled with a little less drama (of which there was a little).

This isn't actually an answer proper, but there's a few points where I suspect the process of well, all this could have run better. Hindsight is 20/20 , and this is not really a reflection on SE's moderation and administration processes. I'm posting this as a root access regular, and someone intimately familiar with the channel and its culture, and having heard one side of the issue. To mangle a quote from b5, understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth, and I'm hoping this gives another perspective of this.

  • There wasn't any indication that an automatically triggered script was an issue before action was taken here. In general, the rules seem to be bot can't do anything a regular user can't. I suspect that's the real issue here, since it felt like a sudden decision, rather than a wider sitewide policy. We'd have had a lot less of a mess if we weren't working out what the lines were after action was taken. I do understand that the dev team explicitly didn't want this behaviour, but there was no way that the upstream or RA bot devs would have known of this.

  • Neither the regulars in the room, nor newbies had mentioned any issue with the bot. If we had felt so, we could have probably had a word with @allquixotic. The robogreeting was actually tweaked in consultation with the users, and for most part, the bot hasn't been a annoyance.

  • The first we knew of this was the bot getting suspended - which is a tiny bit like getting a telegram delivered through the roof by a swat team.

A little less shock and awe, might have been nice. @allquixotic has been very nice about tweaking his version of the chatbot (as time permits!), and this could have been probably handled with a little less drama (of which there was a little).

This isn't actually an answer proper, but there's a few points where I suspect the process of well, all this could have run better. Hindsight is 20/20 , and this is not really a reflection on SE's moderation and administration processes. I'm posting this as a root access regular, and someone intimately familiar with the channel and its culture, and having heard one side of the issue. To mangle a quote from b5, understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth, and I'm hoping this gives another perspective of this.

  • There wasn't any indication that an automatically triggered script was an issue before action was taken here. In general, the rules seem to be bot can't do anything a regular user can't. I suspect that's the real issue here, since it felt like a sudden decision, rather than a wider sitewide policy. We'd have had a lot less of a mess if we weren't working out what the lines were after action was taken. I do understand that the dev team explicitly didn't want this behaviour, but there was no way that the upstream or RA bot devs would have known of this.

  • Neither the regulars in the room, nor newbies had mentioned any issue with the bot. If we had felt so, we could have probably had a word with @allquixotic. The robogreeting was actually tweaked in consultation with the users, and for most part, the bot hasn't been a annoyance.

  • The first we knew of this was the bot getting suspended - which is a tiny bit like getting a telegram delivered through the roof by a swat team.

A little less shock and awe, might have been nice. @allquixotic has been very nice about tweaking his version of the chatbot (as time permits!), and this could have been probably handled with a little less drama (of which there was a little).

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This isn't actually an answer proper, but there's a few points where I suspect the process of well, all this could have run better. Hindsight is 20/20 , and this is not really a reflection on SE's moderation and administration processes. I'm posting this as a root access regular, and someone intimately familiar with the channel and its culture, and having heard one side of the issue. To mangle a quote from b5, understanding is a three edged sword, yoursideyour side, their side and the truth, and I'm hoping this gives another perspective of this.

  • There wasn't any indication that an automatically triggered script was an issue before action was taken here. In general, the rules seem to be bot can't do anything a regular user can't. I suspect thatsthat's the real issue here, since it felt like a sudden decision, rather than a wider sitewide policy. We'd have had a lot less of a mess if we weren't working out what the lines were after action was taken. I do understand that the dev team explicitly didn't want this behaviour, but there was no way that the upstream or RA bot devs would have known of this.

  • Neither the regulars in the room, nor newbies had mentioned any issue with the bot. If we had felt so, we could have probably had a word with @allquixotic. The robogreeting was actually tweaked in consultationtweaked in consultation with the users, and for most part, the bot hasn't been a annoyance.

  • The first we knew of this was the bot getting suspended - which is a tiny bit like getting a telegram delivered through the roof by a swat team.

A little less shock and awe, might have been nice. @allquixotic has been very nice about tweaking his version of the chatbot (as time permits!), and this could have been probably handled with a little less drama (of which there was a little).

This isn't actually an answer proper, but there's a few points where I suspect the process of well, all this could have run better. Hindsight is 20/20 , and this is not really a reflection on SE's moderation and administration processes. I'm posting this as a root access regular, and someone intimately familiar with the channel and its culture, and having heard one side of the issue. To mangle a quote from b5, understanding is a three edged sword, yourside, their side and the truth, and I'm hoping this gives another perspective of this.

  • There wasn't any indication that an automatically triggered script was an issue before action was taken here. In general, the rules seem to be bot can't do anything a regular user can't. I suspect thats the real issue here, since it felt like a sudden decision, rather than a wider sitewide policy. We'd have had a lot less of a mess if we weren't working out what the lines were after action was taken. I do understand that the dev team explicitly didn't want this behaviour, but there was no way that the upstream or RA bot devs would have known of this.

  • Neither the regulars in the room, nor newbies had mentioned any issue with the bot. If we had felt so, we could have probably had a word with @allquixotic. The robogreeting was actually tweaked in consultation with the users, and for most part, the bot hasn't been a annoyance.

  • The first we knew of this was the bot getting suspended - which is a tiny bit like getting a telegram delivered through the roof by a swat team.

A little less shock and awe, might have been nice. @allquixotic has been very nice about tweaking his version of the chatbot (as time permits!), and this could have been probably handled with a little less drama (of which there was a little).

This isn't actually an answer proper, but there's a few points where I suspect the process of well, all this could have run better. Hindsight is 20/20 , and this is not really a reflection on SE's moderation and administration processes. I'm posting this as a root access regular, and someone intimately familiar with the channel and its culture, and having heard one side of the issue. To mangle a quote from b5, understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth, and I'm hoping this gives another perspective of this.

  • There wasn't any indication that an automatically triggered script was an issue before action was taken here. In general, the rules seem to be bot can't do anything a regular user can't. I suspect that's the real issue here, since it felt like a sudden decision, rather than a wider sitewide policy. We'd have had a lot less of a mess if we weren't working out what the lines were after action was taken. I do understand that the dev team explicitly didn't want this behaviour, but there was no way that the upstream or RA bot devs would have known of this.

  • Neither the regulars in the room, nor newbies had mentioned any issue with the bot. If we had felt so, we could have probably had a word with @allquixotic. The robogreeting was actually tweaked in consultation with the users, and for most part, the bot hasn't been a annoyance.

  • The first we knew of this was the bot getting suspended - which is a tiny bit like getting a telegram delivered through the roof by a swat team.

A little less shock and awe, might have been nice. @allquixotic has been very nice about tweaking his version of the chatbot (as time permits!), and this could have been probably handled with a little less drama (of which there was a little).

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